For a coupla years, my supersmart friend Jess (who was in Boston but moved to my former home of Lexington, KY - weird!) kept telling me
TBH should really check out and maybe play with her friend's band,
One Happy Island. Eventually, I got a clue and checked them out and (gig pending) one result is that I've had some very interesting impromtu Facebook exchanges with member (don't even bother asking what he plays - the answer is everything) Brad San Martin.
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| "it's me playing a solo show (backed by Ian Evans of the awesome UK noise-pop band Horowitz on chair) in the merch tent at the IndieTracks festival in Derbyshire, UK...from late July of this year" |
Brad would challenge my attempts at deep status updates and suddenly we'd have one of those long comment threads that aggravates anyone who simply "liked" the status in passing and tried to continue on their merry way. Brad's comments were always decidedly thoughtful and unusually articulate, so when I posted the
first duologue link and he was the first to volunteer -- not just to chat with me, but to "antagonize" me, OBViously I had to take him up on the offer.
me: so - you'd be happy to antagonize me, eh?
Brad: oh, hey -- one sec!
me: no problem!
Brad: sorry -- designing gig flyers. be back in 45 seconds.
me: take your time
Brad: ok.
me: okay you'll take your time or okay you're ready?
Brad: hmmmm
ok. ready! i don't mean antagonize in a bad way, necessarily.
me: ah - the good kind of antagonizing?
Brad: well...i just mean it's good to ask questions and engage in discussions. it seems like people aren't used to reconciling opposing viewpoints: it's all black or right, right or wrong...the art of the debate/discussion has sorta withered in the face of political correctness, i suppose.
but what's that got to do with rock'n'roll?
me: (sorry, back)
isn't rock'n'roll supposed to be subversive
?
Brad: well, i suppose your walking the line between rock'n'roll and pop music. before rock and pop were synonymous, it was VERY subversive. people thought it would bring about the death of society as they knew it. now there is plenty of rock'n'roll that extols the status quo quite openly.
(you're)
me: and what about pop?
Brad: pop is music for everyone, right? anything can be pop.
pop/rock is sort of an oxymoron, isn't it? it's a contradiction, and the friction between the two can be really interesting...or really boring.
me: pop is music for everyone, as in, pop = popular = status quo?
that seems different from saying pop can be anything.
Brad: not necessarily. to me, it's music that is relateable, not necessarily popular. but you know, you can attach labels to anything, and endlessly pick at them and undermine them. who am i, derida? me: i hope not... otherwise, i could be in serious trouble here.
Brad: don't worry.
me: i think relateable is a good distinction, though.
Brad: that's a key word/idea.
this lyric popped out at me:
Brad: wow, thanks.
(i was being sincere!)
me: (funny how periods have come to indicate sarcasm to some.)
"i insist on not insisting on anything. i insist on not resisting what is happening, it's just happening"
Brad: i did write that lyric.
all though replace "on" with "I'm" -- I insist I'm not insisting on...same idea, though.
me: ah - thanks
Brad: i insist i'm not resisting...
of course, by insisting that you're not, you're insisting that you are.
me: ohhhhh that's quite different.
that sounds more like you (though it should be said i've never even met you)
Brad: well, it's a song about being trapped in a corner: physically, romantically, socially, whatever. all of a sudden i'm insisting that it's not my fault that i'm here.
which means that it is.
me: because you're saying it's not.
Brad: right :)
me: yeah.
Brad: that's a really old song.
me: when did you start writing songs?
Brad: i started WANTING to write songs in middle school. i wrote a few bad songs in high school. i wrote a lot more bad songs starting in college.
me: do you remember your first song?
Brad: hmmm...i remember bits. the first song, beginning to end, finished song escapes me.
for me, i write constantly, and rarely is anything finished.
that's the way it's always been.
and sometimes the song changes even if you don't change the music or lyrics.
me: what does it take for a song to make it to a finished state? is there some criteria?
Brad: well, if you're a songwriter AND a performer, it changes every time you play it. it means different things to you as time passes. but strictly as a writer, i have a hard time saying when a song is finished. i rely on my bandmates for that, or just when it seems to develop a beginning, a middle, and an end. it has an arc.
i toss as many finished songs in the dustheap as i do scraps of songs...i recently compiled an album of outtakes/demos, and it had 22 tracks on it, i think.
me: bandmates are good for that kind of thing.
can you describe your band dynamic in a word or two?
Brad: my bandmates are wonderful. i'm very lucky.
hmmm
it's basically the democracy that every other band says they are, but aren't.
me: ha ha - so why should we believe you? :)